My new GeeTar

Possibly the best $250 tax dollars I ever spent. HA! Now I just need to start playing more. But I probably wont. I'll probably just continue my stir crazy life of pacing around rambling to myself or staring at the ceiling waiting for the beautifully inevitable end of my pathetic life. I made my enemies millions of dollars, especially the 4 and a half months I spent at Hawthorn Center when I was 13. That was about 2 million dollars right there, just to be drugged on haldol and put through a simple program of waking up, going to retard class, going to my room for quiet time, eating, more quiet time and sleep. They charged tax payers approximately $1,000 dollars a day for that!

Don't ever say that I haven't worked a day in my life. I just never got any justice out of it, so now I steal your tax dollars while living for free off my terrorized family who are too afraid to call the police and kick me out because they've seen how long and strong I hold onto my rage toward people. So I pay no bills, I take my SSI, rob my folks of another few hundred a month, and there's nothing that you can do about it. I'd pick your ass up and throw you through the wall.

I haven't even been training a year. March will be the 1 year anniversary, although I was working out with water bottles and bags of rocks back then. June would be the one year anniversary of when I started using real weights. This next March will probably start the year of when I learned what to do and started running an actual program, as I plan to order Louie Simmons' Westside Barbell Methods book as soon as I get my next welfare check.

Already, with less than one year of training, no program and little understanding of how to train, I have achieved a:

255lb benchpress

365lb squat

435lb deadlift

Behold my pissed off crazy-man powers.

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http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Chris-chan#Chris-chan_goes_to_jail

"The only way his “get-out-of-jail-for-free-card” could work to somewhat to his advantage would be due to this incident reeking of autistic fuck up and the court would find him incapable of functioning as a normal adult and therefore not responsible for his actions and would then commit him to a mental health facility, likely for most of his remaining adult life. As for Barbara, if the court found her guilty it is likely the 70 year wouldn't survive her prison sentence."

It's the sort of people writing this article that psychiatry works for. Think about that when reading the final paragraph there. It's so true. It would be for the benefit of the sort of assholes harrassing him, and not for his benefit itself, that he be placed in a mental institution. What's more bothersome is reading a thread elsewhere where people who know Snyder (the guy "hit" by the car) all talk amongst each other about how he instegates and has jumped in front of someone else's car before when they tried to leave during an argument, which is exactly what Chris Chan and his mom say that he did to them. Something that last I read was not an explanation for the event that the prosecutor was willing to consider, and of course none of the people who know of Snyder's behavioral problems are making any effort to inform the court.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt180564.html

This might be where I read about Snyder. I cant remember where it was and just googled that and cant be bothered to read it. It might be where I read all the people supporting involuntary commitment of Chris Chan and I remember noting how so many of them thought that mental hospitals were nice and loving places of emotional healing. *rolls eyes* , In any case I don't really care all that much about this whole thing except that it's an obvious example of psychiatry as social control that too many people are somehow blinded to seeing that way and instead manage to find an ironic psychotic/delusional way of seeing it as for the good of his own health.

When the problem is that you might harm me for bothering you, then simply allowing me evasion from that harm does not make you a good person, especially when it's in the form of unjust incarceration and forced drugging. That's basically saying, "You're going to the mental hospital to be forcibly drugged, else I'm gonna mess you up!"

This reminds me of a time I spent the night in jail and the guards put a guy in the suicide cell to become psychiatric. The man was simply aggravating the guards, talking trash and saying things like "Yeah, you wouldn't be all fuckin' hard outside, would ya?" "Don't think you'd talk to me like this on the street!" , By the logic of the guards, the man was suicidal because he was making them want to kill him. The man wound up psychiatric as a result.

It has been almost one year since I stopped drinking.

February 6 will be the one year anniversary of the last day I drank.

When I drank, I was a suicidal knock-out drinker. I would drink at least 12-20 24's (24-40 beers) just on days (or half days) of stabilizing, then I would pass out, wake up and pop some librium or tranxenes. I would then try to wait at least 12 hours, but usually would start drinking 5-6 hours later as the benzo wore off. I did this for about 7-8 years, since before I was even 21. At times I couldn't even drink beer and had to switch to hard liquor. Toward the end I was drinking 150% alcohol everclear, to about the equivalent of 40-60 beers in a 5-6 hour binge. I remember going to a rehab center (big mistake, disease model and 12 step bullshit) where I blew a .24 when I arrived. I wasn't even halfway into my drinking and was still walking and talking perfectly fine.

The primary reason that I quit drinking was that I could not take the suffering caused by it. Between drinking episodes, usually beginning only a few hours after my last drink, I would feel terribly ill, torturously anxious and stressed out, physically destroyed and psychologically desperate - feelings of doom, dread and panic would engulf me. I had actually began experiencing this in the first few years of my drinking and decided I would quit back when I was about 23 years old. The frequent failings almost led me to suicide many of times. I still don't know why I'm still there.

The way I was successfully allowed to finally quit was because I had grown so sick that I just could not drink. I seriously couldn't. I couldn't eat, either. I could hardly move or breathe. This got me past the delirium tremens. When I finally came out of that, I was so fried that maybe a month went by on it's own before I realized that I hadn't been drinking. The first few months were really easy because of this reason, and whatever machine-like thing in my brain that kept running to drive me to alcohol had just stopped. I keep it stopped by just not drinking. My addiction went from being physical, to psychological. Now, there is nothing forcing me to drink. I always know that I am one decision away from going through that all over again and probably dying from it (I really don't care, I just said that to be dramatic.)

In this time I have been sober now I have gone absolutely nowhere in life. I've just taken the SSI $ that I had blown on alcohol and just blew it on weights and training equipment, and a guitar and computer. I'm still desperately lonely, still afraid to try to go out in the world, still rotting in my parents attic with a life worse than death.

And, to top it off, any day now someone from the state will come and turn me into a cash cow and I will be forced to take the same tortuous neuroleptics that fucked me up as a child and led to all of this. ... The world I live in.

This is why I have no hope as a childhood psychiatric "survivor" (survived to live a life worse than death)

This is all based on the recent psychiatric reform movement spawned from Robert Whitaker's books, Mad in America and Anatomy of An Epidemic. MadinAmerica.com will help any reader understand what I am writing about.

What Whitaker is doing is really the same thing that has been done before in every other generation. It appears like his work is ground breaking, but in reality psychiatry is just that easy to shoot holes through. Whitaker's works make it seem like he journey'd to the ends of the Earth to make his case, but in reality all of the evidence and studies were right there. But then how come things got the way that they are, since this was a line of scientific evidence beginning in the 1940's and 50's? It really comes down to what the supporters of psychiatry want to hear. If you cant tell a story that pleases them, then you're just wasting your time.

Take Lars Martensson, for example. He put together a scientific argument that neuroleptic drugs caused the brain to undergo compensatory adaptations which resulted in the persons dopamine receptors becoming supersensitive to dopamine and that led to a worsening of long term psychosis than was the case in the natural course of the illness. He published articles, gave talks and everybody in psychiatry knew about it. This was in the EARLY 1980's!

It's not that his works weren't scientific - Whitaker makes the same case, 30 years and millions of victims later - it's simply that the supporters of psychaitry don't want to hear it. And they, of course, are the supporters. If the people providing psychiatry with it's political and financial support don't want psychiatry to change, then how can psychiatry be expected to change?

Users of psychiatry and the people who would force psychiatry on another (involuntary treatment) do not want to hear ANY story other than it's a brain disease and this or that pill treats it. Period. They will - sometimes violently - defend that story no matter what. The very idea that mental illness could result from experiences in life or environment and even if it were biological or there were just biological elements to it that non-biological treatments could be successful is considered absolutely obscene to these people. These people, of course, are the ones that psychiatry caters to. If they don't want psychiatry to change then not all the best researched books in the world are going to force them to.

Don't forget, Whitaker's case had already been made decades before him. Peter Breggin made it between Lars and Whitaker. Loren Mosher - who Whitaker cites - was the head of the NIMH schizophrenia department and he made the case, and lost his job for doing it.

No new ground has been broken. Perhaps the most demoralizing thing to consider is that back when Mosher, Martensson and Breggin were making their cases, psychiatry was not doing well with the public at all. Most people saw them as either time wasting freudian quacks (to which they would try to suffocate funding from the government to) or sadistic lobotmizing butchers thanks to movies like One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest. Let's not forget also that there was a prominent anti-psychiatry movement in the 1960's, an era of change where psychiatry had perhaps the second worst reputation they had ever had, second to the 1970's when Whitaker himself documents how psychiatry was in a real fight for it's life and med students were afraid to choose psychiatry as a specialty. It was around this time that psychiatry had the reputation as servants of the state and church. Locking up gay teens and adults and electroshocking them. Locking up social and political activists, and so forth. Yet despite all of this, the cases made by people like Mosher and Martensson caused absolutely no change in psychiatry. And, of course, this was after Thomas Szasz and R.D. Laing had their turn.

We must face it. As long as psychiatry offers to families a way of keeping control of wayward "members", gives excuses to malingers and bad parents and tells the public what they want to hear, they will continue to be around and thriving. If psychiatry declared to the public that the cause of mental disorders was unknown and that cognitive and psychosocial therapies were far more successful than somatic treatments, psychiatry would be dead-and they know it. Nobody would pay them to offer those services. Nobody would even ask them to. It would simply just make psychiatry look incompetent as they continue trying to go on doing what they already do. Psychiatry knows this and so should you. It is never going to happen.

Is this a practical joke?

http://www.guitarscalemastery.com/letter/?hop=main1

Is this a joke? That guy is terrible in every regard.

Why people still use neuroleptic drugs is a lot like why people would still buy a IDE/SATA to USB adapter despite nearly half of the reviews saying that it fried their drives. In fact when I looked at one on Newegg, the reviews were pretty much either 1 or 5 stars.

It's a psychotic mentality that allows for people to be like this, unfortunely for us all it is considered normal. That instead of figuring that the product must be defective, they instead figure that it's a matter of luck. They don't think that the product is bad, they would rather think that some people are luckier than others and pay more regard to the percentage of people who liked the product. So then they don't think about the [insert any percent] of people that got burned, because after all nothing is perfect, right? Besides, this might be your lucky day! This is especially why neuroleptic drugs should never be forced or coerced on anybody, along with the fact that it's never another persons body anyway. Whatever life long problems, whether it be physical or psychological, that the forced will have to live with for the rest of their life, absolutely nothing happens to the forcer except that they get paid. Absolutely fucking criminal.

Talking to myself while listening to a song I wrote

You have always found it extremely difficult if not nearly impossible to try to stabalize or build a life or anything because you always live with the fear that people will come and crash it down. It all began in your childhood with all the psych drugging. You'd be OK, feel fine and then you'd be forced to take shit that was mind rape. You'd no longer be you and would feel assaulted, then would come behavoiral problems that you got blamed for. Then you'd quit taking them, slowly begin to do better and the school or 'doctors' would find out and you'd be forced back on drugs. Over and over... It gave you the mind of a rape victim.

Now you live in a world where even as an adult you have to worry about it happening all over again. You think of this too often when you wonder why it's so hard for you to just try to feel comfortable as who you are and work on your life and why not feel that way. You've seen forced and coerced drugging for stupid shit all over. The people at Hurley who got forcibly drugged by court order despite being totally fine, they were even doing better than you yet were in and out of the court in less than an hour, all of them zombified. Drugging has become a huge part of American culture. Most people have gotten so used to it when it comes to the so called mentally ill that even when they see someone crying over it they'll just roll their eyes and be totally unaffected by it, assuming the emotionality and apparant suffering of the person to be their mental illness. What sick and dangerous people these norms are. And then when the neuroleptic kicks in and it deadens their emotions and turns them into zombies, those same people will smile and say "See, you're doing so much better!"

You have a developed insecurity of self and safety and it happened to be caused by the very same people who would 'treat' you for any so called 'mental illness' today. You cant escape your past nor the identity that became of it. Not so long as their bullshit opinions exists in the culture and they remain in power.

It would be so great to be able to just live in some new culture where none of this shit existed nor would ever be allowed. A place where everyone is free to be and the right to ones body and mind is the single most important and protected thing in the society no matter what the circumstance or the majorities opinion of it. That world would be a paradise.

The most important book ever written.

http://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-Epidemic-Bullets-Psychiatric-Astonishing/dp/0307452417

"*Starred Review* When Whitaker (Mad in America, 2002) learned that between 1987 and 2007 the number of Americans disabled due to mental illness more than doubled despite a whopping $40 billion annual psychotropic drug tab, it gave him pause. Given their widespread use—greater than even that of cholesterol-lowering drugs—he had believed that psychopharmaceuticals were magic bullets, knocking mental illness out of the game, returning formerly disabled people to the ranks of productive citizens. But the deeper he probed into clinical studies in prestigious scientific journals, some dating back more than 50 years, the more he noticed a shocking anomaly. Psychiatric drugs have repeatedly been shown to worsen mental illness, to say nothing of the risks of liver damage, weight gain, elevated cholesterol and blood sugar, and reduced cognitive function they entail. The reality, he says, is that, because no one knows what causes mental illness, there’s no cure or palliation to be found in these pills. What with the conclusions Whitaker draws from his assembled literature and the accusations he levels at those who consciously deceive consumers eager for magical cures, his book will either blow the lid off a multibillion-dollar industry or cause him to be labeled a crackpot and, perhaps, medicated into obscurity. At the very least, it should prod those who take the drugs to question those who prescribe them. --Donna Chavez"

Too bad that the only people who give a shit are the ones who don't matter. Scientists, researchers, advocates and "patients" - this industry is ruled by psychiatrists, social workers and state and big pharma sponsored government institutes. If the struggles between science and belief have taught us anything, there is no hope for change. Besides, you think that hundreds of thousands of people are going to put themselves out of a job by accepting the truth of this data? Besides that, the mental health industry in the aggregate is so large that it would affect millions if the drug approach toward treating mental and behavioral woes were greatly limited as the research data suggests that it should be if we cared about long term recovery and cost expenditure.

By the way, in my entire life I have involuntarily cost the U.S. tax payers more than 2 million dollars. That money is of course spread around. Think about it - legal robbery. Did any of this treatment intend to help me? No, it intended to shut me up temporarily so others around me could get back to their lives uninterupted.

Worst few months of my life just endured.

I'm doomed no matter what. I live in a society full of retards where no argument no matter how evidence backed can compete with the conventional wisdom created by the authorities and the media regarding psychiatric drugs. Because I was drugged so heavily as a kid and effectively kicked out of society via the school system I have no formal education certificates, poor credit from having no credit and going into debt, no employment record at the age of 27 and no way of finding any housing at all away from my parents place unless I'm willing to take chemical lobotomy drugs that I don't even need and are what I despise and fear more than anything at all to either get subsidized housing or be put in a group home.

The only places that rent out without credit checks are skeevy motels in the ghetto where gangbangers and the such set up shop with their welfare checks. Once my aging parents die, I'm done for. If I live to be 45, I'm definitely done for.

And yet it I killed myself right now, everyone would chalk it up to some imaginary brain disease and not the fact that I was robbed of the prospect of life before I was even a teenager and continue to be to this day due to mass ignorance, misinformation and a lack of justice.

Here's a question I've often asked and a few responses I've gotten, or at least the point they made during their response.

"Why cant a person with a history of mental illness receive support to get back on their feet such as supported employment or subsidized housing without taking drugs if they have found another method to be successful and are fairly stable?"
> Because mental illness is a disease and diseases don't just go away, they may go into remission while awaiting relapse and the drugs can prevent relapse (They cant, in fact they make it worse in the long term; see the above link and read the book)
> Because if you don't need the meds you're not ill enough to need help
> Because it's policy. Employers and landlords wont work with us unless you're in treatment and the mainstay of treatment is currently drugs.

Neuroleptics: Good for when others ail you!

http://www.bonkersinstitute.org/medicineshow.html

Just remembering something...

Information without logic, skepticism and empiricism is dangerous. I just remembered being in the third grade and learning that soccer was invented in Arkansas by two boys who would fill a sock with dirt and kick it between tree's while waiting for supper, hence the word "sock-er/soccer".

And yet people consider me a loser when I brag about having dropped out in the sixth grade while fighting psychiatrists, druggings and custody battles and commitments throughout the process. Really, what the fuck is psychiatry doing in the school system and why do we let drug pushing psychiatrists try to raise our children and shape and mold our society? Look at the great job they've done so far! We've got a nation of fat, stupid people who pop pills whenever problems arise that need to be dealt with instead of dealing with them. Depressed? Anxious? So messed up you have fits where you scream and pull your hair out? Is it your shitty job? Your shitty relationship? Your shitty life? Probably, but just do drugs and numb your mind to it. That's what drugs are for. But no, WAIT! Drugs are bad, right? So believe that you have a chemical imbalance and call it medication. Nevermind that the majority (if not almost all) of the kids being drugged today are either too smart for the school system or are being abused at home or improperly raised. Nevermind that during this "Epidemic of mental illness" in our society that Fuller Torrey has written about jobs have gotten shittier, families have gotten more dysfunctional and estranged, social relationships have become less valuable and life is running faster than we have evolved to be able to handle. To psychiatry all of that is irrelevant. I wouldn't be so pissed off at psychiatry, in fact I wouldn't be bothered by them at all if not for these facts.

1: They are medical authorities.
2: They're in or have something to do with pretty much every institution in our country, including our government.
3: They have no real science, only beliefs and rhetoric that push social, political and economic goals.
4: They can detain and forcibly drug you and/or your children if they decide.
5: They've never had an era where there treatments weren't abusive and/or destructive.

People are so stupid. Comment I put on a stumble upon page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORv8wwiadQ

Although I cant remember the name of it, this is a horridly stupid logical argument used heavily on and off throughout societies across the world to try and convince people to believe in God and serve the church. It's still in use to day, what a shame. (Edit, it's called "Pascal's Wager". Look it up)

E.G. "If you believe in God and he exists, you go to heaven. If you don't believe in God and he exists, you go to hell. If he doesn't exist, it doesn't matter if you believed, but again; if he does and you don't worship, you go to hell. So why not just believe in God and serve him?"

And it was this same reasoning that got us into the Iraq war. "What if Saddam doesn't have WMD's? But then again what if he DOES? If we look at the dreary outcome we could expect if the latter were true then we should disregard the former possibility. If he doesn't have WMD's, we get a typical war. If he does have WMD's and we don't take him down, we could experience a tragedy beyond any of that ever known to humanity. So then, why shouldn't we go to war?"

This is a disgrace to logic and seeing all the thumbs-ups and comments here on SU for this video just reminds me how and why I long ago lost faith in life and humanity. Even people who think they are intelligent and are probably well educated are still too stupid to spot what is so obviously poor logic. Take this guys same argument and begin applying the logic he uses to everything in life and see what happens. ... Idiots.

It's no wonder that comments and ratings are disabled here and almost everywhere else this video is posted. It's herding dumb sheep.

As I think about it, it doesn't surprise me that the "global warming" - or as we say now "climate change" - alarmists would use this. Pascal's Wager has always been used to try and just slice through any reasonable debate and scientific discovery in order to just end the issue and get people on board the ship. This actually is the most terrifying video I've ever seen, at least it lived up to its title.

As for the major flaw in Pascal's Wager as a logical argument to form an opinion on or even worse take action with is that you don't know if there truly is a God or even if there is if there is any unavoidable danger in not believing in him. Same with climate change. The climate of the Earth has never been consistent, it has always been changing even long before us and we have no proof that we are the cause of any current changes nor do we have any assurance that anything we can do is capable of modifying the climate for the future. This also reminds me of the Lake Nyos incident where thousands of people died because of a volcano under a still lake that leaked carbon dioxide into the water which later turned to carbonic acid and seeped out. The natives believed the incident was caused by evil spirits as legends had told of it occurring in the past in their village, but beyond that even scientists all over the world were stunned and had no idea what caused it UNTIL THEY INVESTIGATED. But what if they had just let the locals use Pascal's Wager to instead - even just for the time being - begin sacrificing virgins to the lake, ya know, just in case it was evil spirits?

I cant help but to remember...

How in this behavioral medicine unit AKA psychiatric hospital (The behavioral medicine unit in Flint, Michigan.), patients were physically forced out of their beds for not attending the pointless and stupid groups and then their doors were locked for the day. They were always drugged so heavily with neuroleptics that they had to sleep and were often sick and then forced to lay in the hallway with no blankets or pillows for not attending some stupid group that they were too dysfunctional to had been able to participate in anyway.

And to think, society went ape shit over one flew over the cucko's nest, which I watched in awe at the surprise that people found it disturbing when I and others have been through way worse while at the same time having nobody giving a shit. It's typical of something else I rant about later on in this post, people pretend to care but then stick their head in the sand. They try to look like decent people, and once that image is there they just shoot off and get back to their fun. Take it from a guy that has been to 5 mental hospitals in his life, it's way fucking worse this very day than anything you see in that movie. But then again, we're not living in an era that gives a shit about where their money goes for mental health treatment and how the so called mentally ill are treated. Big Pharma and the media took control of that cultural factor and now the once disturbing scene of Jack Nicholson being electroshocked is a "Hey, I hear that's a great cure for depression now.", "Yeah, they say it's new and improved." By the way, on that topic, it's sickening that real doctors in ER's and ICU's will fight adamantly to prevent, control or stop a convulsion while as psychiatrists turn around and induce them and call it medicine. By the way, the only improvement to ECT now are the paralyzing drugs used to keep you from rocking the table and breaking bones while what's happening to your brain is the same as ever. It's a FUCKING CONVULSION for fucks sake! I have to live in a society where people are so fucking stupid and media/information manipulated that they can be sold the belief of CONVULSIONS as MEDICINE!

I'm so fucking sick of this criminal system and am getting even more sick at the stupid fucking people who support it as if it's a God send to the so called mentally ill and then just blindly close their eyes to the reality of it. These stupid assholes that tear down CCHR exhibits while claiming to do so because they care about the mentally ill, when in reality if they did and were rational then they'd rather be actually studying the literature and the data behind it.

It's getting harder to cope knowing how much money these criminal assholes are making and the fact that they do it by creating what can justly be called the modern Jews in the holocaust as their cash cows, creating a major job industry in people doing pointless work that doesn't need to be done. Nurses, counselors, drug pushing psychiatrists, mental health techs who just walk around taking your blood pressure all day with a machine on a cart and letting people in and out of the showers, ect. None of these people have valid jobs that offer a service to society that is needed or just.

I wish more people would stand up over this. But to the norm it's just another one of the millions of problems all around us so until it affects them they don't care and that has to be the real kicker. If they're in the norm crowd; it will never affect them. (Except the funding)

Besides, most norms fear the living shit out of the so called mentally ill. Why not? I'd be scared of some pissed off and disturbed people, too. Scared enough to appease them if the case was valid and just or lock them up if it wasn't. (I.E. I'm disturbed because of a life time of abuse vs I'm disturbed because some asshole took my job!)

As Michel Foucault put it, the so called mentally ill are the Enlightenment Era's lepers. I can never expect anybody to give a shit except people who are no better off than me thus not capable of doing a fucking thing about anything except bitching on the internet and yelling at people.

Once stuck in the psychiatric system it's pretty much impossible to get out. When you carry a stigma label on your health record it will follow you everywhere you go. To the courts, to employers, to schools, wherever. So you're forced to have to form this whole new identity to where you actually have to become the dysfunctional loser and just float through life aimlessly. Not because you had/have a brain disease, but because it's who you are now. Psychiatry is in just about every element of society and our lives. I couldn't even get into a alcohol detox center without signing a paper because of hepa laws so they could get my mental health records to decide whether I just needed the phenobartital for seizures or that and a neuroleptic "anti-psychotic" like haldol. All based on a fucking stigma label on a piece of paper and a psych eval that is nothing more than the subjective judgments of you as a person by another person.

I like to tell people, who of course think I'm crazy and shrug me off, that the best way to destroy your entire life no matter what you plan to do afterwards is to walk into a mental hospital and say that you're hearing voices telling you to kill yourself. You can retract that the moment you get in, inform them about your education and full time job and private residency, want out, get out, and your life will still be ruined unless you actually don't care about carrying a fake disease-Stigma label around with you on your medical chart for the rest of your life.

This is why, or at least mainly why, I refuse to work. I wish SSI was over $2,000, considering that much if not all of the suffering of the so called mentally ill is caused by society and its "treatment" of it, it's about damned time we got restitution.

I was raised to believe that lawsuits existed so people wouldn't kill each other over this or that, so when somebody was hit with injustice by another they could sue and money could supplant the ass beating or murder... It's pretty much impossible to sue the mental health system. In fact, unless you're rich, you'll get tore to pieces even trying.

That reminds me of a young guy who was at the psych unit and had a upper class/rich family and a lawyer, he was caught passed out on the side walk after he got incredibly high and the police brought him there. The psychiatrists said he was self medicating for depression and to prevent future problems from occurring he needed to take the Zoloft. He said he was just partying with some friends, wont take the Zoloft and wanted to go home. He dragged it out in court and in the end he wound up on two neuroleptics - Seuroquel and abilify -, both with such pretty names and made him sicker than shit.

This same thing, called psychiatric punishment, occurred in a case where somebody I've talked to prepared an affidavit and testified in court for a young man who was committed for months for a previous suicide attempt that he made on Risperdal, where the proposed treatment he was enduring during his court battle and what was to be ordered in outpatient was the Risperdal! After Daniel Kriegman spanked the psychiatrists like a unwanted step child with his ironclad data and sharp wit, the psychiatrist changed his recommendation to the court from Risperdal to Proloxin time released injections - A neuroleptic 60 times more potent than haldol.

Lastly, here is that affidavit. It, along with Robert Whitaker's works, should be mandatory reading in every school across the country and by every citizen of America.

Affidavit for a involuntary commitment and forced outpatient drugging case by Daniel Kriegman, Ph.d

I cant help but to remember... + link to interesting article

All of the voluntary people in these psych units I've been too. Most of them were the most irate and likely to throw a chair at the window, because they all came in used to civil rights and thinking that they could leave at any time. Many of them also held unrealistic beliefs about psychiatry and expected psychotherapy and to vent their problems and be talked to, only to find out that all psychiatry has are drugs, drugs and more drugs. Drugs that they could had just gotten from their family doctor. The only other thing they have is incarceration at a expense of over $1,000 a day per patient to tax payers and insurance companies.

When a voluntary patient would decide to leave, if they were the slightest bit irate it was rare that a psychiatrist would discharge them (and they would almost always be irate at the point of demanding to leave) so then they would have to fill out a intent to leave form and it would have to go before the mental health court and become a legal battle. Where, by the way, only 9% of such cases are won by the "defendants", or that is, "patients".

Despite some spelling problems, I love this article and look forward (or am at least hopeful) to reading his book.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article6538213.ece - It appears they have problems with psychiatry in the U.K., too.

Damn crazies

"Freeman was so nonchalant about the practice of forced lobotomies that, in one of his books, he included a photo of a screaming, naked woman being dragged to the operating table. " - Robert Whitaker, Mad in America

Why do all of these mental patients always have to be so treatment noncompliant? For crying out loud, the operations inventor won the Nobel Prize in medicine.

Ya know, we've got this same problem today, so much so that Fuller Torrey even had to go and establish the Treatment Advocacy Center.